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Scammed by Angel Management!!! Read this to get your money Back!

Hello all,

Okay guys so I can only assume that you are reading this because you:

1.  Are considering going to Angel management for a shoot

or

2. Have Already been scammed


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Ok back to the main reason you are here

Angel Management!!!

Lets put it this way, they are a bunch of scammers. Professional ones as well but hey!!! they forget that they can't get away doing this with everyone!  

If any one had told me I would be the one to be scammed at all, I would say NO!!! In big bold capital letters as I am very good at picking those things! Yes I suspected them  but they lied and gave me answers that I wanted to hear.

Who are Angel Management

I won't bore you with how they scam me etc and specific details but here is some information about them

1. They are a bunch of photographers not even a modelling platform or whatever (check your bank statement they are registered as BB photography international)

2. They do not work with any agency at all. Its only TMA they "know" of. They tell you TMA won't charge you anything as you already have pictures blah blah. TMA tells you that you still have to pay them and that they are separate from angel management and there is no link between both!!! They said Angel management has been lying to a lot of people!Alarm bells started ringing at this point! OF course I didn't go to TMA appointment as how would I trust a company who deal with scammers and they admit to knowing that angel management are scamming people!

3. They tell you they have opened a page for his bah blah blah. Their website is a scam. Try searching for your child profile you won't see it. Can only find your child from the link they send you? also no Jobs on there for kids!!! they don't even oversee the website

4. They lie to you and make so many promises I can go on and on but won't bore you so stopping now

All you need to know is they are thieves

 

How do I get my money back?

So how do you get your money back? Here is a step by step guide

1. Go to your bank first! You need to use these exact words "charge-back". Your right to this charge-back in this case is based on the fact that angel-management charged you for a service they did not provide and lied to you to get money out of you. They misrepresented themselves

2. If this does not work tell the operator that you want to make a complaint. Here is why you need to complain. The next point is financial ombudsman and you need to show that you have gone to the highest level with your bank first, which is complaint through the bank. 

3. If number 2 does not work, financial ombudsman service will step in and usually they win the case (if they don't, very unlikely please message me) 08000234567

4. Charge-back can only be made within 120 days of the payment. If you fall out of that date please message me (or leave a comment) and I will tell you what to do.

5. Make sure you inform Trading standards. The more people do, the better as companies like this need to be closed down!!! Citizen advice/tradind standard 03454040506 

6.If you have not Keep sending emails to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.as compiling list of those that got spammed. I am hoping to report them to like Watch dog or something and need as many people as I can get (Not certain I will but if I am able to will do)

7. At all stages you have to be assertive and sound like you know what you are talking about.

 

How did I get my money back

In my case, I called my bank first (nationwide) first and they refused to do it, then called financial ombudsman who said they will take it up but I have to have exhausted the possibilities with my bank first. I called my bank back and they still refused to do it (this time operators was so rude to me). Anyway I asked for a complaint to be opened. Remember you only need to do this so financial ombudsman can take over. Anyway, at the complaints stage, the complaint team at Nationwide decided that actually yes I do qualify for charge back !! YIPEEE finally someone with sense lol. This is because if they don't do it and financial ombudsman intervenes then it will count agains them!

 

What I need to get my money back?

Here is what you need at hand before calling bank or FO

1. The date you went and how much you paid

2. All communication with them (what helped me was I actually asked them loads of questions before going in and they replied with lies). These will need to be forwarded to your bank

3. Remember that the bank are actually reversing a payment so they need evidence. Feel free to include prints out and links from net mum discussion forums etc to proof that Angel Management are scammers.

 

Dont forget its irrelevant they gave you pictures. The fact is those picture and those payment you made were done under false hopes and misrepresentation!. Put it this way if you ordered an iPhone and you got a Samsung phone. Just because you got "something" doesn't make it right. You got the "wrong" thing and as such, are entitled to your money back!

Anyway I can confirm to you that I got my charge back processed by Nationwide and my money has been refunded back to me. I am so excited!. 

I believe with Lloyds and Natwest, its easier those two banks are nicer and less stressful but with banks like Nationwide and HSBC etc you have to push harder.

I hope this will help someone. I am still not done with angel management! As I feel others need to be prevented form the stress I have been through with them. The pictures may be nice but did I really take the day off and took a drive of 2.5 hours for what I could have taken behind my house at a fraction of the price?. Let's not forget that a lot of "good" agencies won't even accept their pictures as they are "not suitable". They are not really modelling pictures more or less photoshoots! 

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Comments 12

 
Guest - Chloe on Friday, 22 September 2017 18:14

I called my bank - NatWest, earlier (before I read your post) and spoke to the fraud team. He said I would need paper proof so they could send it to their bank and claim the money back. I said they didn't give me anything except the paper receipt that was to the BB scan company and the instagram ads they were using. He said I couldn't use this and would still need paper proof of what "services I was going to receive from them". Any advice?

I called my bank - NatWest, earlier (before I read your post) and spoke to the fraud team. He said I would need paper proof so they could send it to their bank and claim the money back. I said they didn't give me anything except the paper receipt that was to the BB scan company and the instagram ads they were using. He said I couldn't use this and would still need paper proof of what "services I was going to receive from them". Any advice?
Ruth on Friday, 22 September 2017 22:22

Hi Chloe, thanks for your question. Yes they are right the receipt is not enough evidence to reverse the payment. the receipt just shows you paid which is irrelevant as your bank statement says you paid. you are not proving you paid you are trying to prove that they did not provide the service which you paid for

We are asking for a reverse to be made based on the fact that they "lied" and promised you something else and that is what you need proof of
So do you have any email (preferably more than one) you exchanged with them? that will be useful. They must have sent you some emails inviting you??

is there any wording (s) you could pick out from the email and use to back up your claim?

When you send them those and if they still refuse. ask that you want to take it higher up, which is to complaints.

If its not sorted at this point, then escalate to financial ombudsman
all contact are in the blog post
Thanks



Hi Chloe, thanks for your question. Yes they are right the receipt is not enough evidence to reverse the payment. the receipt just shows you paid which is irrelevant as your bank statement says you paid. you are not proving you paid you are trying to prove that they did not provide the service which you paid for We are asking for a reverse to be made based on the fact that they "lied" and promised you something else and that is what you need proof of So do you have any email (preferably more than one) you exchanged with them? that will be useful. They must have sent you some emails inviting you?? is there any wording (s) you could pick out from the email and use to back up your claim? When you send them those and if they still refuse. ask that you want to take it higher up, which is to complaints. If its not sorted at this point, then escalate to financial ombudsman all contact are in the blog post Thanks
Guest - Chloe on Saturday, 23 September 2017 09:15

Yeah they sent me an email inviting me to a 'free photo shoot and 1 picture to take home' if this is enough?

Yeah they sent me an email inviting me to a 'free photo shoot and 1 picture to take home' if this is enough?
Ruth on Sunday, 24 September 2017 00:00

Hello Chloe, pls forward me the email.
I need to read it as we need to scrutinise it to pick out things we can use against them
Please send to sterlingscollections1@gmail.com (using that email to compile evidence against them anyway)

did you exchange any emails with them? e.g. ask questions before going in or?

Hello Chloe, pls forward me the email. I need to read it as we need to scrutinise it to pick out things we can use against them Please send to sterlingscollections1@gmail.com (using that email to compile evidence against them anyway) did you exchange any emails with them? e.g. ask questions before going in or?
Ewa on Saturday, 23 September 2017 23:13

Hi I had the same expirence with them as well on Thurday the 21st went for photo shoots with my d.... as well was asked to pay and I paid £400 but since I left the studio feel something is not right next day talk with my friend who just advised me to be more carefull... next I recived an email from ATM managment something told me to use google and find out of U and AM Managmet coz is now called that staight away read ur blog rung to the credit card what used customer service the paymet is suspendet what should I expect now???? Any help???

Hi I had the same expirence with them as well on Thurday the 21st went for photo shoots with my d.... as well was asked to pay and I paid £400 but since I left the studio feel something is not right next day talk with my friend who just advised me to be more carefull... next I recived an email from ATM managment something told me to use google and find out of U and AM Managmet coz is now called that staight away read ur blog rung to the credit card what used customer service the paymet is suspendet what should I expect now???? Any help???
Ruth on Sunday, 24 September 2017 00:01

Hello Ewa, did you say the payment is now suspended? are you saying the credit card agency have suspended the payment?
I didn't understand the last sentence

Hello Ewa, did you say the payment is now suspended? are you saying the credit card agency have suspended the payment? I didn't understand the last sentence
Ewa on Sunday, 24 September 2017 00:06

Yes the payment is suspendent.... sorry tryed to tell a lot of that what happened and taping to fast

Yes the payment is suspendent.... sorry tryed to tell a lot of that what happened and taping to fast
Ewa on Sunday, 24 September 2017 00:11

We've monitored your account and the disputed transaction has come through. Don't worry the transaction has been suspended and won't incur any interest. We will progress with your dispute and will be in touch within the next 7 working days. Thank you, Barclaycard

We've monitored your account and the disputed transaction has come through. Don't worry the transaction has been suspended and won't incur any interest. We will progress with your dispute and will be in touch within the next 7 working days. Thank you, Barclaycard
Ewa on Sunday, 24 September 2017 00:08

Ho do I can put some pics on it have a few good one about that agency????

Ho do I can put some pics on it have a few good one about that agency????
Ruth on Tuesday, 26 September 2017 13:47

you can email them over to me and I will update this page. Thanks

you can email them over to me and I will update this page. Thanks
Ewa on Sunday, 24 September 2017 00:10

We've monitored your account and the disputed transaction has come through. Don't worry the transaction has been suspended and won't incur any interest. We will progress with your dispute and will be in touch within the next 7 working days. Thank you, Barclaycard

We've monitored your account and the disputed transaction has come through. Don't worry the transaction has been suspended and won't incur any interest. We will progress with your dispute and will be in touch within the next 7 working days. Thank you, Barclaycard
Ruth on Tuesday, 26 September 2017 13:46

Hello Ewa. If they have suspended the transaction. that means the money wont go through, they are investigating it and I am sure they will find out that they are scammers. I dont think you need to do anything actually.
ALL I WILL SAY IS MONITOR YOUR ACCOUNT and if the money does go out. Then call barclaycard.

Hello Ewa. If they have suspended the transaction. that means the money wont go through, they are investigating it and I am sure they will find out that they are scammers. I dont think you need to do anything actually. ALL I WILL SAY IS MONITOR YOUR ACCOUNT and if the money does go out. Then call barclaycard.
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